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Obviously I voted for the Focus ST :p

Just what we need, more heated debates about M3S and the Focus ST.

Nice Find.

Vote away Ladies and Gentlemen.
 

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Really liking the few MS3 responses.

Theres a reason why mazda's logo is zoom zoom, ford focus is junk. Plus Subaru and Mazda are rated first n second in their class. Period
It's called a slogan you idiot, and I don't know where he gets his facts. :p
 

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I think the only edge the Mazda has is the top-end power/torque numbers. And I imagine real-world it'll be very similar to the Ford. Both are essentially traction-limited through the first two gears anyway. The Ford wins in basically every other category, with better mileage, great gadgets, sweet seats, and driveability (at least in torque steer).

I suppose the Ford has yet to be proved out though. Time will tell!
 
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