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LOL at auto express for steadfastly holding on to the FWD plan.
LOL at those who steadfastly cling to the vain hope that Ford would be so generous as to develop a bespoke AWD system unique from any other system they currently use that would be good for a performance car.

Why was the last RS FWD? Oh that's right Ford didn't have a performance AWD system that was better than the lower powered ST.

I guess we'll see when Ford is ready to reveal the car, but this speculation is worthless.
 

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In voice of Yoda doubting Thomas you are
 

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LOL at those who steadfastly cling to the vain hope that Ford would be so generous as to develop a bespoke AWD system unique from any other system they currently use that would be good for a performance car.

Why was the last RS FWD? Oh that's right Ford didn't have a performance AWD system that was better than the lower powered ST.
Right, because OEMs tend to stand still with their development plans.
 

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We have tried to make it clear. If you are paying attention to this thread, we have laid it out for you. If you want to doubt it, doubt it.
 

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LOL at those who steadfastly cling to the vain hope that Ford would be so generous as to develop a bespoke AWD system unique from any other system they currently use that would be good for a performance car.

Why was the last RS FWD? Oh that's right Ford didn't have a performance AWD system that was better than the lower powered ST.

I guess we'll see when Ford is ready to reveal the car, but this speculation is worthless.
Ford don't have to develop anything, as they can get the required parts off the shelf, as others have pointed out the final decision becomes one of cost. On the last RS they tried at least two times to have it be AWD each time using a cheaper set up and each time it was deemed too expensive. The revo knuckle was originally designed with FWD diesels in mind to help combat the torque steer, yet so far it has only appeared on one production ford vehicle, the engineering side isn't the problem the trick is in getting it past the bean counters.

As to what performance AWD set up the RS may or may not get well that is something that won't be know till the RS is gets revealed probably early next year. If one was to guess I would say the Geneva motor show at which point we will see if an engineers ETV AWD tick box got checked or the bean counters special.
 

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Ford don't have to develop anything, as they can get the required parts off the shelf, as others have pointed out the final decision becomes one of cost. On the last RS they tried at least two times to have it be AWD each time using a cheaper set up and each time it was deemed too expensive. The revo knuckle was originally designed with FWD diesels in mind to help combat the torque steer, yet so far it has only appeared on one production ford vehicle, the engineering side isn't the problem the trick is in getting it past the bean counters.

As to what performance AWD set up the RS may or may not get well that is something that won't be know till the RS is gets revealed probably early next year. If one was to guess I would say the Geneva motor show at which point we will see if an engineers ETV AWD tick box got checked or the bean counters special.
We should just stop speculating ...if those in the know know arent able to say then the rest of us should just be patient and wait.
 

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or folks can do their own reserach and see what has been developed from 3 parties for certain manufacturers. Cool thigs can be learned from patents and registered trade marks offices. A friend of mine has a patent joint with Porsche registered in the US.
 

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today from AutoExpress(UK)

The hottest Focus will use a version of the Mustang’s 2.3-litre EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. In the American two-door muscle car, that engine develops 304bhp, but to allow the RS to take on mega-hatches like the Mercedes A45 AMG, expect Ford’s engineers push the power up to around 350bhp.

Unlike the A45 AMG, though, the RS will remain front-wheel-drive – partly to keep costs down and also because the last-generation Focus RS showed that a Focus chassis can handle large power outputs thanks to a clever limited slip differential and trick RevoKnuckle front suspension.

With Ford now carrying out aero tests on the production body, we have no reason to revise our estimate that the RS will go on sale sometime in 2016. Ford has a proud history of offering rally car-like levels of grip, power and poise for relatively few pounds, so expect it to cost less than £27,000.

Read more: New Ford Focus RS edges closer to 2016 launch | Auto Express
 

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today from AutoExpress(UK)

The hottest Focus will use a version of the Mustang’s 2.3-litre EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. In the American two-door muscle car, that engine develops 304bhp, but to allow the RS to take on mega-hatches like the Mercedes A45 AMG, expect Ford’s engineers push the power up to around 350bhp.

Unlike the A45 AMG, though, the RS will remain front-wheel-drive – partly to keep costs down and also because the last-generation Focus RS showed that a Focus chassis can handle large power outputs thanks to a clever limited slip differential and trick RevoKnuckle front suspension.

With Ford now carrying out aero tests on the production body, we have no reason to revise our estimate that the RS will go on sale sometime in 2016. Ford has a proud history of offering rally car-like levels of grip, power and poise for relatively few pounds, so expect it to cost less than £27,000.

Read more: New Ford Focus RS edges closer to 2016 launch | Auto Express
This has been done to death already. Like, literally, this very same news with almost the same wording.
 

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Yesterday it was fwd ...today its awd ....!!!

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Some folks are still convinced that the 2016 Ford Focus RS will to be a front-driver, continuing the trend of the previous, RevoKnuckle-equipped RS. But we think it's going AWD, something Ford will only say is "doable" on the record, and now there's video to back up what own sources have been telling Road & Track all along. See for yourself.



click: roadandtrack.com/car-videos/video-2016-focus-rs-shows-off-awd-chops

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Yesterday it was fwd ...today its awd ....!!!

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Some folks are still convinced that the 2016 Ford Focus RS will to be a front-driver, continuing the trend of the previous, RevoKnuckle-equipped RS. But we think it's going AWD, something Ford will only say is "doable" on the record, and now there's video to back up what own sources have been telling Road & Track all along. See for yourself.



click: roadandtrack.com/car-videos/video-2016-focus-rs-shows-off-awd-chops

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Which is why this speculation needs to stop. It's Schrödinger's car, based on complete speculation it's both AWD and FWD until you can look under the skirt and see for yourself and to read the official spec sheet from Ford.

I don't think it would be AWD because historically that was always rumored for the RS Focus yet it was always a bonkers FWD hot hatch.

AWD systems are generally heavy and add parasitic drag to the power train. The odds of Ford developing a bespoke system that starts off life in a hot hatchback before being adapted for other cars seems unlikely, but not quite as unlikely as the aluminum F150. The reactionary system underneath the Escape or Kuga is not good for a performance application however.
 

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and today from autoblog....

Rumors about the forthcoming Ford Focus RS are flourishing into what sounds like a very impressive new hot hatch. The latest scuttlebutt gives the first indication about when we might see a few of these fast Focuses on roads here in the US.

Unnamed insiders reportedly confirmed to The Truth About Cars that Ford plans to launch the Focus RS in the US in 2016. However, getting one might not be so easy ? the boosted powertrain means the car would likely need to be imported from Europe. That's likely going to keep the total number available in the US rather low. The sources estimate a price tag that's a bit more expensive than the top Focus ST3, which starts around $28,500, plus $825 destination.

It seems that a pretty potent package comes for all of that cash, though. The Focus RS reportedly uses a 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder making between 325 and 350 horsepower, with a torque-vectoring all-wheel drive system to get that muscle to the road. The test mules also wear more aggressive front and rear fascias, dual exhaust tips, larger brakes and sticky tires. It sounds like a great formula on top of the already enjoyable Focus ST.

These latest reports certainly corroborate the Focus RS' chances in the US. Autoblog asked Ford for an official statement about the hatch's chances in the US, but company spokesperson Monique Brentley told us, "We don't speculate on future products." However, things have looked good for the RS since a prototype was spotted testing here months ago.

click: autoblog.com/2014/10/21/ford-focus-rs-imported-europe-report/

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