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#1 ·
Took Super Blue to Pocono Raceway over this weekend to instruct with the DelVal BMWCCA Club and would like to give my observations about the ST and how it did on a short road course.

A little background on me. I've been driving at HPDE's for nearly 10 years and at least 3 years as an instructor. I take pride in being as smooth as I can with application of power and gear changing. I tend to be conservative as a driver cause I need to drive my cars home. When I begin to trailer my cars I will then drive straight to the edge. However, I am not trailering so 8 tenths is going to have to do. I've driven the following cars over this time frame an Eagle talon TSi, an SRT-4, an 05 STi, an e30 325e and e30 325i Bimmer, an 09 STi, an E36 M3 sedan (with ZERO options including no sunroof) and finally the Focus ST. So, you can see I've got some experience driving all types and I have to say the 05 STi still is the fastest and most precise car to date. On street tires it annihilated nearly all the other cars on the track. I was capable of lapping my group twice in the advanced group. My instructor at that time was a racer and was extremely impressed with the car and I had other instructors come up to me saying how well I was driving the car. However, it wasn't me it really was the car. Nevertheless, I digress.

First thing to note my ST had only 800 and change miles. So, the engine still has a long way to go until it completely loosens up. Still, I was dying to see what all this torque vectoring was all about and how well it would rotate.

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1. It's so quite that with a helmet on you can't hear it at all.

2. It could certainly benefit from an additional oil cooler.
3. It handles OUTSTANDING! :yay:

4. The Goodyears are very nice and offer plenty of grip and all I did was lower them to 30psi cold in frt and 32psi cold in the rear. This combo resulted in the backend swinging around like a belly dancer. Which was most gratifying because it allowed me to continue to drive like I had a rwd car.

5. The suspension is soft, but remarkably is stable and allows for very fast right left transitions.

6. The shifter left me a little nervous, because I got lost and was afraid to go for third a couple of times thinking I was going to get 1st which I've done before at speed leaving me to pray as the car did an unknown number of 360's.
7. The pull out of the corners leaves you like this >>>>:rolleyes: cause it tries to pull your ears off. I pulled on M3's, stroker 325's with 3.1 liter engines and a few Porsche's. I had one Porsche own looking in his mirrors as I filled them with the ST's grill which nearly caused him to go off.

8. I ran the car in full track mode, because I wanted the full experience. I will follow that statement up with I will not say that you do the same and I never recommend this for new drivers on the track or street. In fact in the wet I drove it in sport mode so that I would have some form of TC.

9. I have an ST2, and must say the Recaro's are flippin AWESOME! They hold you in the seat beautifully. Well worth the money.

10. Now, the brakes. The brakes are super for the first 20 minutes then they start suffering, but if you don't drag them and squeeze them good and hard at the moment you need them they will certainly last the session. Ford did a great job matching everything, but how cool would it have been to have real brembo's on there. I would probably get a set a real track pads if I used R-Comps because while the OEM pads work well Ford didn't intend them to be a full on track pad.

11. The steering is ridiculously sharp and the car goes exactly where you point it and if you simply breathe off the throttle the car changes its attitude allowing for reapplication of power.

12. The last thing to note and most important is the oil temps. I noted after pushing it the gauge would sit on the 3/4 mark which for me is a little too high.

13. Along with the oil temps is fuel. BRING LOTS OF GAS! The tiny tank drains fast and the fuel sloshes causing a fuel issue when its below 1/2 tank as the gauge bounces down to E making you believe it's out of fuel when it's not.

Overall, the car is spot on and is utterly amazing. Thank you Ford for building such an amazing car that gets nothing but stares when you return back to the pits because people are stunned that a 20 something car kept up or passed their car which is 2 and 3 times the cost of my little water pistol as my nephew calls it.


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#5 ·
The STi is a point and shoot, but you better have BIG b@ll$. It liked being driven with one foot on the brake and the other on the gas.

Whoever said the ST isn't a track car never has been on the track. Because this car is most certainly a track car.
 
#3 ·
Super write up! Thanks for the review.

I'm planning to be at the track shortly myself (8 years of HPDE experience). I only have 300 miles on mine far; off to the alignment shop this afternoon.

I haven't looked at it closely, but some of the initial photos of the engine make it look relatively simple to plumb in an oil cooler, right?

Interesting comment about the shifter. The most noticeable aspect for me at the moment is how far away I have to move my hands to get to the shifter itself. My current autox/track car has a nice tall shifter (short shifter with a taller shaft/extra tall delrin knob) - close enough to the steering wheel that in 6th gear, I can touch both the steering wheel and the shifter at the same time. Further, with the big lumbar bolsters, my feel like I have to work my arm "out" and over to reach the shifter.
 
#6 ·
Honestly, the alignment seemed ok. Im sure it could use more negative camber and more caster, but it really did an amazing job even in it's stock form.

FYI - I had 800 miles on mine when I took it. I changed the oil today and immediately noticed a difference in the oil temps, so I am hoping that as it loosens up the temps will go down.

The feeling you get is the same one I get having to put your elbow over the bolster and it doesn't help that the console is in the way. The console is what causes the shifter to be a "problem" as well cause the little pocket is exactly where the shifter should be.

What will you get the settings set to?
 
#4 ·
Love hearing how the car does on the track, thank you for sharing! As a former '06 STi owner, I am with you 100% on it being a fast car that's quite easy to drive. My S2000 CAN be faster than the STi, at least in the bends... but it takes a lot of driver skill to do so. However when you are able to be faster it's that much more rewarding. :)

The higher oil temp has me a little concerned... do you know how long it would take for the temps to come back down to normal operating temp after you were out on the track?

Sounds like an oil cooler and some brembos (or track pads at least) and this puppy is ready to go :cool:

Also, it's great to hear the handling is superb, but I'm wondering about the nature of how you have to drive it with it being FWD. Did the car understeer much? Was the car able to handle some throttle through the bends before it would start to understeer?
 
#7 ·
You are right the STi is easy to drive, because the ecu's do all the hard work to ensure you stay online. Especially in the 09, but at least you can turn it all off which is great.

I changed the oil today at 1244miles and while it looked ok I wanted to have all that "break-in" material out. I immediately noticed the oil temps were lower, but remember the car is brand new and tight with lots of friction. So when it has say 6,000 miles or so it will run cooler as well. I drove around the lot and it came back to the middle, so that's how I knew it was a friction issue.

Just about any car could benefit from an oil cooler and as I looked at it today putting one in place is going to be tough. Track pads are all it needs as the existing brakes are sufficient.

As for driving a fwd simply drive it like a rwd car by turning in aggressively and the rear rotates around allowing you to feed in power. NOT ONCE did it understeer in fact I found myself catching it. It seemed that I could apply power early and it would simply pull through the bends which are tight. Be sure to review some of the photo's and you'll see how it reacts. I never felt like I had lift because it was going straight. I would lift to rotate the car cause I didn't turn in properly.

Seriously guys everyone will have a blast.
 
#11 ·
Thanks for the writeup, sounds like a blast. I have about 3 years HPDE experience in nose heavy and overpowered Mustangs so I'm definitely excited to give the ST a whirl.

What were the ambient temps that day? I'd be curious to see what the discharge temps were as well. Sounds like track pads and a better oil with more shear stability would be good track day upgrades. The Motorcraft 5w50 synthblend that came in the GT500s loved to shear viscosity fairly easily, especially with heat.
 
#13 ·
The temps over the two days were in the mid 40's to high 50's. Discharge temps??? Absolutely track pads will make a huge difference. Mine were SMOKING when I came in, but that's because on the street you never really get them hot enough for a proper bed in. After the first session they stopped smoking and the pedal was like stepping on a brick for the first 25 laps or so. The oil is Motorcraft FULL synthetic NOT blend and it's 5w30 which is more than enough.

I seriously think we need Multimatic on here to discuss things us track guys should consider when tracking our ST's. Ford should also treat this car like the Boss 302 when it comes to warranty, because they are foolish to think drivers will not track their ST's. Isn't that why they built it?
 
#16 ·
Keeping up is a product of driver vs. driver, and not really relative to actual car vs. car performance. I'd expect both the FRS/BRZ and the current generation MX5 to be able to put down similar lap times to the ST despite their power disadvantages.
 
#17 ·
Correct which is why they compete in the same class in Grand AM, but everytime you see them out of the corners where torque is essential the ST and MS3 and the Cooper S's always pull away from the NA cars.